Wednesday, May 08, 2024

The Nemesis of Lambeosaurs

The dinosaurs from the Amur localities (Udurchukan and Yuliangze formations) appear highly unusual, considering their middle Maastrichtian age. They are geologically younger than Nemegt taxa, yet appear older, as if they were a revival of the Campanian. Unlike the Nemegt and the Hell Creek (and equivalents) Amur units yield numerous lambeosaurs, and lack derived tyrannosaurs. In view of this the Maastrichtian age given for the Udurchukan and Yuliangze once seemed dubious, yet it is well established. How can the Amur faunas, so unusual for their place and time, be explained?

They may be explained by delays in the radiation of derived tyrannosaurs, prior to the latest Maastrichtian. The geological record indicates tyrannosaur giants were initially confined to certain areas. Their impact was profound but it was long limited geographically. Around middle Maastrichtian time certain regions, including the Amur, were unaffected. This meant a remarkable disconnect between the big tyrannosaur environments and the others. A comparison of the Zhucheng and Laiyang localities of the Wangshi series, and the Javelina and upper Horseshoe Canyon formations, reveals striking faunal differences, even among close coeval units, reflecting the presence or absence of advanced tyrannosaurs.

The archpredators appear to have evolved in continental interior habitats with titanosaurs or the giant Shantungosaurus. Initially, they eschewed the wetter environments preferred by most hadrosaurs. Eventually, however, the super hunters spread, to the detriment of taxa which, long unexposed to them, lacked coevolutionary preparation to cope. Lambeosaurs and primitive hadrosaurs faced annihilation.

Essentially, the crested taxa could not survive alongside the later, giant tyrannosaurs. No lambeosaurs existed in the Nemegt paleoenvironment where Tarbosaurus was top predator. Likewise Tyrannosaurus habitats appear devoid of lambeosaurs. The latter are, however, known from the mid Maastrichtian upper Horseshoe Canyon, where the top predator was the less derived Albertosaurus. It is noteworthy that Tyrannosaurus existed by this time but only in the Alamosaurus habitats. Wangshi localities provide another example. The habitat of Zhuchengtyrannus, like that of Tyrannosaurus, included an edmontosaurine, Shantungosaurus, but no lambeosaurs. In sharp contrast the Laiyang exposures, where no big tyrannosaurs are known, have yielded the lambeosaur Tsintaosaurus and the primitive Tanius. Apparently, presence or lack of derived predators explains the vast difference in faunas despite the proximity of the two coeval habitats (Laiyang has the anklosaur Pinacosaurus also known from Mongolian strata dated c 73 ma, about the same age as Zhucheng strata--which also have the similar Sinankylosaurus).

A big tyrannosaur from the late Maastrichtian Dalangshan formation of southern China and a possible edmontosaur, Microhadrosaurus, suggest the same pattern.

Where huge tyrannosaurs were not yet present, lambeosaurs still held out. The Amur region, therefore, can be compared to the coeval, upper Horseshoe Canyon. In both paleoenvironements, lambeosaurs were at least temporarily safe.

Like Hypacrosaurus, Olorotitan, Amurosaurus and other crested forms thrived in the absence of Tyrannosaurus or a comparable taxon. Some lasted into early late Maastrichtian time, the age of the Blagoveschensk beds yielding Amurosaurus. It's possible, though, they succumbed in the last million years or so of the Maastrichtian. By then, the spreading Tyrannosaurus extirpated Hypacrosaurus, the last of the North American lambeosaurs, and other taxa. As the Dalangshang teeth indicate, large tyrannosaurs still existed in Asia toward the end. Like their North American counterparts, they may have extended their ranges into lambeosaur refugia, dooming the crested taxa.

Teeth of a large tyrannosaur from the late Maastrichtian of southern China.

14 Comments:

Anonymous Neal Eugene Robbins said...

Tyrannosaurs were apex predators. Hadrosaurs were not a match for them in terms of fighting. Therefore, hadrosaurs would not have lasted for too long in an area with a substantial number of tyrannosaurs.

8:46 AM  
Blogger starman said...


Hadrosaurs lacked weapons hence probably fled instead of fought. Some did survive alongside derived tyrannosaurs; Shantungosaurus, Saurolophus and Edmontosaurus are examples. Lambeosaurs, however, are not known in the giant tyrannosaur habitats.
Btw I note the lambeosaur Hypacrosaurus lived with Saurolophus in the Horseshoe Canyon environment but not with Saurolophus in the Nemegt. That suggests the problem wasn't the physical environment. The key difference was the Nemegt had a giant derived tyrannosaur and the Horseshoe Canyon didn't.


May 10, 2024

1:14 AM  
Anonymous Neal Eugene Robbins said...

Size must have been an important factor. Smaller carnivorous theropods would have had difficulty hunting large prey, unless they were in a group. When a giant tyrannosaur killed a hadrosaur, smaller tyrannosaurs or other theropods might have sometimes scavenged the leftovers.

5:34 AM  
Blogger starman said...


Sure, that's probable. It's interesting that hadrosaur contemporaries of Zhuchengtyrannus, Tarbosaurus and Tyrannosaurus (Shantungosaurus, Saurolophus and Edmontosaurus respectively) attained large sizes, in part to increase their chances of surviving attack. With their powerfully muscled legs, they could have--and apparently did--break free of tyrannosaurs that caught them by their tails as they fled.



May 10, 2024

8:08 AM  
Anonymous Neal Robbins Robbins said...

I think that in some cases they were able to escape from tyrannosaurs. It has been speculated that some hadrosaurs fled into water as a means of escape. In conjunction with that idea is the theory that tyrannosaurs were not adept in swimming.

3:13 PM  
Blogger starman said...


Many hadrosaurs lived near rivers and were probably good swimmers. The idea that they fled into water, though, sounds very old. In his chapter in HADROSAURS, Phil Currie compared tyrannosaurs and hadrosaurs to lions and zebras.


May 11, 2024

12:50 AM  
Anonymous Neal Robbins Robbins said...



Currie's comparison has some validity. Although hadrosaurs could swim well, they had to come out of the water at some point. If the water was shallow enough, a tyrannosaur could wade into the river and get the hadrosaur.

5:52 AM  
Anonymous Martin wong said...

Thanks you sirs . I read both of your comments with much interests and insights. At the moment I'm travelling and visiting my cousins in Guangzhou China. So I could only read and enjoyed your intellectual story and discussion

6:42 AM  
Blogger starman said...

Good to hear this topic was of interest Martin. :)

@Neal,

Hadrosaurs were basically land animals; the aquatic hadrosaur notion went out in 1963 with the publication of Ostrom's "A Reconsideration of the Paleoecology of the Hadrosaurian Dinosaurs."
Currie's view, that tyrannosaurs and hadrosaurs were analogous to lions and zebras, is pretty much standard and has been for many years.


May 12, 2024

1:03 AM  
Anonymous Neal Eugene Robbins said...

I think that getting water to drink must have been the main reason why hadrosaurs lived in close proximity to substantial sources of water, for example, rivers, lakes, ponds, and swamps. Given the considerable size of many hadrosaurs, they would have needed plenty of water to drink. Tyrannosaurs could have noted that and often stayed near the watering places so that they would have an opportunity to go after hadrosaurs.

4:38 PM  
Blogger starman said...

All dinosaurs needed water to drink. Even larger dinosaurs, such as sauropods, often lived in drier habitats farther from rivers or lakes. Hadrosaurs probably preferred riparian habitat because it was where most of their food grew. Tyrannosaurs ranged through more than one habitat as they preyed on a variety of dinosaurs.


May 13, 2024

12:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In coastal areas some tyrannosaurs might have scavenged bodies of large sea creatures that washed up on beaches. I don't think that was their main source of food, but tyrannosaurs were opportunistic and would eat whatever they found, mostly by killing prey.

7:58 AM  
Blogger starman said...

Yes large theropods of all kinds were almost certainly opportunistic.
In my latest post, I opine that big, derived tyrannosaurs doomed the lambeosaurs when they moved into their habitats. It seems that lambeosaurs didn't inhabit the same areas as the more T.rex-like tyrannosaurs. But it's not quite clear why lambeosaurs were excluded from such areas. I infer vulnerability to advanced tyrannosaurs but I'm not sure why lambeosaurs would've been vulnerable.
I do, however, have a suggestion. Like centrosaurines, lambeosaurs tended to emphasize intraspecific interaction over antipredator defense. Lambeosaurs were very "showy." They had elaborate crests of various morphologies. These crests evolved for sound production--mating calls--and sexual display. By investing in such means to a greater degree than Edmontosaurines, lambeosaurs were less able to compete with other hadrosaurs in advanced tyrannosaur environments. Like the nasal boss of Pachyrhinosaurus, the crests of lambeosaurines were useless for antipredator defense and reduced the investment their owners could make in it. The difference may not have been very great but even a small difference could mean a lost competition with better adapted forms.

May 13, 2024

11:51 AM  
Anonymous Neal Eugene Robbins said...


Tyrannosaurs must have been the main factor involved with the demise of the lambeosaurs. The presence of other predators was also hazardous for lambeosaurs, but tyrannosaurs were the most efficient carnivores in those environments.

2:23 PM  

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